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19th jury declares

OGAE Portugal: 12 points to Serbia

OGAE Portugal have voted on the 2008 songs, they have awarded Serbian singer Jelena with her fourth 12 points of the year. Switzerland got ten points and remains in third place while the current leaders from Sweden got eight points this time.

The Portuguese OGAE votes:

  • 12 points Serbia
  • 10 points Switzerland
  • 8 points Sweden
  • 7 points Norway
  • 6 points Romania
  • 5 points Albania
  • 4 points Iceland
  • 3 points Cyprus
  • 2 points Armenia
  • 1 point Andorry

Just missing out:

  • Ukraine
  • Greece
  • Poland
  • Russia
  • San Marino

Sweden remains in the lead and is 61 points ahead of the runner-up, which is still Serbia. Switzerland is now ten points ahead of Armenia who stay in fourth place despite some low votings from the most recent countries. While the big votes all went to countries that are doing well, some minor suprises can also be found in the voting: Cyprus got three points and has now eight in total which makes them climb a bit. Albania got five points and moves back in 12th place.

  • You can see the breakdown of votes on the OGAE scorecard here
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After 17 OGAE juries have declared their scores, here is the updated scoreboard:

 

Andorra 18
Israel 17
Albania 24
Latvia 1
Armenia 89
Lithuania 0
Azerbaijan 0
Malta 11
Belarus 1
Moldova 0
Belgium 13
Montenegro 0
Bosnia & Herzegovina 8
Netherlands 0
Bulgaria 19
Norway 75
Croatia 3
Poland 0
Cyprus 8
Portugal 59
Czech Republic 0
Romania 50
Denmark 10
Russia 43
Estonia 0
San Marino 6
Finland 0
Serbia 110
France 6
Slovenia 15
FYR Macedonia 0
Spain 0
Georgia 3
Sweden 171
Germany 13
Switzerland 99
Greece 42
Turkey 24
Hungary 6
Ukraine 84
Iceland 70
United Kingdom 0
Ireland 4
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Winter Wonderland [44612]
Wed 23 Apr 2008 21:55:33

You can still "react defensively in an aggressive way" AND be rude. That's kind of the point. You are rude to hit people where it hurts. :P Sandra isn't only the one on this site who does it. I see it quite a bit.

And it is a pity because ESC is supposed to be about having fun. :)

But yeah... it is quite difficult to detect sarcasm online. ;)

Lol, no, I won't think you're mocking me. But I'm not being attacked like Sandra was.

I'm sure all of Portugal is really nice! But you hear more of tourists visiting Lisbon. But when I plan a trip there I'll be sure to look at some non-tourist packed areas too. =]

And my nickname Winter Wonderland comes from a song I loved as a child.


david lopez [32952]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 18:56:44

Ok ok...
Reading the things she wrote, i don't know... you can call it "reacting defensively in an aggressive way"... i call it rudness.
You can also think i was rude when i said "from Hero to Zero"... i think i was just being sarcastic :)

At the end we should all be friends, that's the point of ESC.

Yes, Lisbon is great but not only Lisbon, the rest of continental Portugal is great... and you should see the islands of Madeira(where Vânia is coming from) and Azores, breathtaking... :)

And portuguese people know very well how to host foreign people :) one of our biggest qualities ;)

If i say that after you visit Portugal you'll change your nickname to Summer Wonderland, you'll think im mocking of you?
hehehe
Hope not...
:)


Winter Wonderland [44612]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 18:31:57

@david lopez: Ok, this I can understand. :) I still didn't find it appropriate since I'm sure she felt it was a personal attack against her. That's certainly what I thought.

And I read your post about Portugal - it DID sound as if you were mocking her. ;)

But I'd love to visit Portugal. I hear that Lisbon is a great tourist destination. =D

And I've seen many of Sandra's posts. I know what she's like. But I can't say that I was much different last year when the Ark was competing. I've loved them for years and I got very defensive at people's negative comments. :P

I can take negativity about Charlotte when it's done with humour, but some people here are extremely negative towards her. I feel as frustrated as Sandra - I just don't express it vocally. xD And I know that getting defensive and insulting people won't help. :)

I don't think Sandra has negative views of Portugal or Portugese people. It's called reacting defensively in an aggressive way. You hit people were it hurts. o.o

And I'm not really going to side on anyone on this issue. Both sides are just as bad, no matter how much the Sandra-bashers probably feel their actions are justified. And no matter how much Sandra feels her actions are justified.

All of you need to tone it down. :/


david lopez [32952]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 17:49:35

I don't consider myself innocent or guilty of anything here, and for me that's what matters!

What i know is that i never attaked her and personally i wasn't attacked by her either...i gave my opinion about the rudness she uses in her writting, i actually made a very nice invitation for her to visit Portugal (that i also extend to you)... and i also find her very funny, i love when she calls us "portuguese lovers" i just can't stop laugh...

From hero to zero wasn't to attack her, its just sarcastic humour...i was delighted to see all this "team" you call, bashing her back, cause she was getting on everybody's nerves, and it wasn't just on this post, it seems for me that you just read this one.

And please don't feel attacked either, it's no my intention really :)

I hope you don't have the same opinion as her, about Portugal and portuguese people...and come and visit us!!


Winter Wonderland [44612]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 17:22:48

@david lopez: Age =/= Maturity.

You're not innocent in all this either. ;) You're part of the team that's been ganging up on Sandra. From hero to zero? Come one... what a pointless thing to say. :( Can you please be an adult about this and stop provoking her? No remark Sandra has made excuses you from making insulting remarks. -shrug-

I've made the same mistake far too many times.


david lopez [32952]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 17:07:24

yeah, the only prob is that shes not young anymore :)
lol


Winter Wonderland [44612]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 16:59:06

@dimmis fan: You're provoking her. It's only your opinion that Sweden isn't the best song this year. MY fave this year is also Sweden, and there's nothing wrong with that. Sandra is allowed to have it as a fave if she wants. :)

@Sandra Ahlander: There was nothing wrong with your first comment, but you should have ended it there. It was just your opinion. But calling Vania a fat cow is not an opinion, but an insult. ;) Of course they started it by calling Charlotte plastic/etc, but you're not making things better. Apparently they can't find anything wrong with the song so they attack the artist instead. ;) But you don't have to do the same! Then you're just as bad as them. :(

So be calm. :P You remind me a lot of me when I was younger. :)


david lopez [32952]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 16:28:43

Q se passa c a sueca? Não disse mais nd...lol
Digam lá que nao tinha piada qd ela nos chamava "portuguese lovers"... :)
eu aqui nao parava de rir lol :)


Florian G. [38797]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 15:50:34

I can't wait, David. Maybe I'll stay there ;)

Vania to win Eurovision!


david lopez [32952]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 15:31:59

Hey projectzero and florian, of course you are also invited to visit our country :)


Catarina Antunes [20318]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 09:47:26

The thing is, if you had the right atitude since the begining portuguese would support you and not Fabio, but probably you fed the arguing, like I know u did, so that makes you guilty. I also don't agree in nothing they have said bad abt Charlotte, but as you may noticed I also read some things you said abt my entry and my entry that I didn't like too, so I just can't be with you, and start to think when u offend countries and portuguese ppl u don't offend just the ones you are talking with...
Não vale a pena mais discussões, ela foi ofendida nós tb, é melhor ficar assim.


Sandra Åhlander [32445]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 07:21:09

@Winter Wonder! I must be allowed to give my opinion about a song without bashing of my owwn country! In my first comment about Portugal I only said thai I think it´s boring and I don´t think it´s will go to final! What´s wrong with that? I´m not insulted the Portugese artist! I only give my opinion! But then the portugese lovers insulting Sweden and Charlotte and said nasty things about her! Is that fair?


dimmis fan [12671]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 05:03:07

sandra i think that Fabio is rigt,
just take tame and download and the other 42 songs of this year eurovision and now lisen them is nice to pick up the phone at 24th of May and vote for a song that you like(and i am sorry but sweden is not the best song of this year)and like i have tell allready THOUSAND TIMES maby ni ever gona make it to the final because .............. i don t gona repeted again.
PORTUGAL GREECE and ALBANIA my top 3 hahahahahaahaha
saludos from SPAIN


Winter Wonderland [44612]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 03:04:30

@Sandra Åhlander: I was actually amused by the avatar. ;) Of course it's offensive, but I can recognise that in MF Charlotte did look a bit dragqueen-ish. (Since she had trouble moving in the dress and her makeup was so heavy). But I know that Charlotte is a gorgeous and sweet woman so offensive statements about her won't bother me that much. Besides, the reason Fabio put that avatar up was to provoke you. :( Some people find amusement in getting others riled up. And that's too bad for them, but you do honestly need to calm down! o.o

I notice as well that certain people here do like to make negative remarks about Sweden/Charlotte on most threads. But that's just immature of them - and it's their problem.

But what I notice that you do is that you get defensive and lash ou t aggressively. :( By insulting their country/song/favourite/etc. They may have started it, but arguing with them certainly isn't going to help (and it doesn't make you look good). It'll just fuel them on into arguing more with you. :(

Everyone here will like different songs, and that's their opinion. Attacks on seperate artists will stop once people stop caring about them. I get annoyed by the Charlotte comments as well, but it's best just to ignore them. Then you show yourself to be the more mature person anyway. *hug*

But I understand how you feel. :)


Roy Gonzalez [16675]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 02:13:40

What a shame... so many points for a plagiarized song!


Sandra Åhlander [32445]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:48:04

@Winter Wonnderland: Hi! I try to calm down but have you seen Favio Delucas new avatar and his nasty comments about Sweden and Charlotte!

Look att his AVATAR, my dear friend!


Sandra Åhlander [32445]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:44:39

@Joel Reis: You ARE attacking me! So now I wait to you attacking Fabio Deluca too!

Why my comments concern you????

I haven´t see you say any word about Fabio´s catwoman comments about Charlotte! But if he should do that against Vania then I´m sure you will say that he hasn´t any respect!
Attackaing Sweden seems okay for you but nota attacking Portugal! :(


Winter Wonderland [44612]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:42:32

Erm... lol? o.o
@Sandra: Calm down.
@Most others: Stop provoking her.

I like Portugal's votes! :) Although I don't understand Romania being that high. :P

And "Andorry" got a point too. :D


Joel Reis [43369]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:20:51

Sandra, concerning the fact that I'm not rude and histerical I don't atack anyone. And avatar's user is not my responsability because it doesn't concern me. You should concern's about you, kid.


Sandra Åhlander [32445]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:17:04

@Joel Reis: So why you don´t attack Fabio Deluca also??? He call Charlotte catwoman and his avatar... is that respect do you think? But of course you don´t attacking him because he loves Portugal!


Sandra Åhlander [32445]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:15:07

@Joel Reis: So why you don´t attack Fabio Deluca also??? He call Charlotte catwoman and his avatar... is that respect do you think? But of course you don´t attacking him because he loves Portugal!


Joel Reis [43369]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:12:15

ProjectZero I think there is one thing we should agree: freedom of speech and thinking but also RESPECT. That's just one thing missing in Sandra. To bad for her...


ProjectZero00 [45374]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:09:05

@david lopez

your comment about portugal was the only worth reading in this article hehe ;)
anyway i dont like Sweden's song that much this year and i think it is overrated. Portugal is my fav

GUYS IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT! JUST STICK TO YOUR TASTE! let others think whatever they want!
cheers!


david lopez [32952]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:05:19

Well at least shes not using the capslock animore,lol
That's an improvement...
:)


Joel Reis [43369]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:05:01

and she spam... My God! your qualities are so wonderfull! (Irony, of coarse, because she is acting like a kid. for all other user, do not pay atention to her. She is having a big dosis of ego!)


Sandra Åhlander [32445]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:02:19

THE RESULT OF THE IRISH OGAE VOTES!
1. Sweden 213 pts
2. Switzerland 184 pts
3. Armenia 116 pts
4. Ukraine 110 pts
5. Serbia 102 pts
6. Denmark 96 pts
7. Norway 89 pts
8. Iceland 73 pts
9. Bosnia-Herzegovina 68 pts
10.Romania 65 pts
11. Belgium 62 pts
12. Slovenia 61 pts
13. Germany 56 pts
14. Israel 55 pts
15. Hungary 50 pts
16. Portugal 48 pts
17. Turkey 42 pts
18. Ireland 37 pts
19. Andorra 37 pts
20. Poland 34 pts
21. Greece 33 pts
22. Netherlands 32 pts
23. Latvia 32 pts
24. Russia 31 pts
25. United Kingdom 27 pts
26. Azerbaijan 26 pts
27. Malta 26pts
28. Croatia 23 pts
29. France 23 pts
30. Georgia 20 pts
31. Moldova 13 pts
32. Belarus 11 pts
33. Bulgaria 11 pts
34. Estonia 10 pts
35. Czech Republic 10 pts
36. Lithuania 9 pts
37. FYR Macedonia 9 pts
38. San Marino 8 pts
39. Finland 6 pts
40. Albania 6 pts
41. Cyprus 6 pts
42. Spain 2 pts
43. Montenegro 0 pts

GO NORDIC!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!! :)


Joel Reis [43369]
Tue 22 Apr 2008 01:00:52

Sandra, the only thing you do here is beeing histerical... That's all we can conclude in your messages. You're just beeing a shame for you and Swedich people.


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