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Andorra: 2009 participation uncertain
Creu Rosell, Head of Delegation of Andorra, told partner site eurovision-spain.com that the public broadcaster RTVA has not decided whether the Principality will participate or not at the 2009 Eurovision Song Contest, to be held in Russia.
Andorran Eurovision plans are now in stand-by and will remain like this until September, when RTVA is expected to announce Andorra's involvement or withdrawal from Eurovision 2009.
Since Andorra joined Eurovision Song Contest back in 2004, the country has never been able to make it to the final. Their best result came in 2007, when Anonymous placed 12th in the semifinal. This year, despite the ambitious plans and big promotion that Gisela enjoyed across Europe, Andorra could not either manage to qualify for the final.
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I think the news were misunderstood.
RTVA won't withdraw (Andorra participates for promotion, not for victory); they simply stated that the broadcaster won't start any plan for choosing the 2009 entry until September and maybe it will be different from 2008 (it was quite criticised due to the proceed and the budget).
LOL, Alex. We are actually stronger now when we there are many of us, but together, than when we were just one country.
Portugal has tried it for mroe than 30 years, that's true, but it also true that Portuguese entries are not vey roog, except some years like this one. The same happened with Finland and, despite they've won in the far past, with the netherlands, France, Germany, UK, Spain, Ireland or Sweden.
@Vincent
Exactly! Portugal is an excellent example - that's why I voted for it this year (I liked the song very much, but I doubt I'd have voted for it if it had come from a country without such an enthusiastic attitude towards the ESC).
hey people calm down a bit :-) the purpose of this contest is not to win or come first, but it is to try. think of Portugal: they have never wn the contest, they have never even come close to winning it, although they participate for over 30 years and they still try and maybe they are happy to present an entry every year despite the bad results. and they never thought o fleaving the contest. Finnland used to come almost top bottom for many decades, but they tried hard, they kept going on and they managed to win(with a sensationalist, masquarade, pseudo-rock carneval performance i must say, but still). Iceland is also one of these cases, but they still try and i find this great. National broadcasters who wants to withdraw from the contest because of bad results get on my nerves. The purpose is not only to win, it is also to sing on a big stage and celebrate an international show. So dear and nice Andorra, stay and try a bit harder to impress the viewers. Casanova was nothing special at all, a repeating bad pop anthem and the staging was disastrous. I liked very much "la mirada interior" back in 2005 but this dutch singer did not look particular nice on stage. A very good entry can d very well even withoutthe big support of dnp voting. Good luck Andora next year, i hope you stay!
@the real hero
All those Western whiners sound like one person to me as well.
Burr and Alex K
are the same person!
I agree!!!!!
perfect song casanova and last year..but gisela's performance was poor.
I am almost sure that Andorra will withdraw from the next edition in Russia. Gisela had a chance in the first semi-final this year, but her outfit destroyed totaly the appearance. Andorra & Estonia are the only 2 countries who have never manage to pass the 5 semi-finals. And I care for Andorra. No for Estonia. Estonia has to pay for this rediculous win back in 2002...
''if we had a semi-final between Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, there's no way in hell Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania would ever qualify''
Well, those 3 ex soviet countries could be in one group with the other ex soviet countries and Iceland/Norway/Denmark/Sweden/Finland in another.
Well, I hope they quit.
The Viking Empire would block them out
I thought Finnish were not a germanic ethnia, but anyway. Andorra should go out and don't spend more money in this.
There wasn't that much promotion for Gislea....and even if there would have been, it wouldn't changed the horrible boring, MF reject schlager and the horrible dress. The " boom, boom " part was extremely annoying. Andorra could not seriously have expected qualification after watching the performance ? They made a good choice in 2007 and bad one in 2008, it is so simple.
people i agree with you, but there was never a fair voting system in the ESC up to now. there was a big portion of unfairness and predictability during the voting era and there are some "favoured" countries by geographical or political position with the televoting system. So i guess there isn't a 100% fair voting system which would offer all participants excactly the same chances. But i still think in the current way of voting a country can make a difference if it tries really hard even without the dnp-vote. And this is good, because then we will get to hear better songs and see better performances n the ESC stage
''Terry Wogan suggested that only finalists should vote. Interestingly enough, it would leave the UK with ZERO POINTS this year, and Russia would still win the ESC''
LOL...I'm sure he hadn't calculated the points before his suggestion.
Terry Wogan suggested that only finalists should vote. Interestingly enough, it would leave the UK with ZERO POINTS this year, and Russia would still win the ESC.
How about sending a good song for a change, Terry? That might work.
Keith, if we had a semi-final between Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, there's no way in hell Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania would ever qualify. The Viking Empire would block them out. Bad idea.
@Keith
I get what you're saying and actually I think it's a very good idea. It doesn't look messy to me and it could solve many problems.
''all non-qualifying countries from one group could form one voting entity''---I like it!
Mina, to answer your second question: Yes, ideally I'd like to see only the countries participating in the superfinal being eligible to vote. But perhaps there could be a way to let non-qualifying countries vote through their qualified neighbours. For example if Norway didn't qualify we could still vote through the Swedish number; thus neither voting for Norway (not in the final) nor Sweden ("own" country). Or perhaps all non-qualifying countries from one group could form one voting entity, thereby adding another 6 announcers to the voting round, making it between 24 and 26 in total. Then all the votes could be cast, not just the top ones.
Example:
North: Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.
Let's say Sweden, Finland and Latvia qualify. The joint voting of Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Estonia and Lithuania could then be merged into one set of 1-12 points in the superfinal. Unfair? Tough shit: If you don't make it to the final, you lose voting power. That makes sense because it's likely that these countries will have fewer viewers than those that qualify.
Hmmmm my suggestion looks messy now. I'll write it up properly on my profile later. Sorry, got a bit carried away today!
Just had a message from the HoD Andorra... she's been misquoted... the project is stopped until September, because that's when they start it again!
Her exact words...
"No se on ho has vist… El projecte d’eurovisió es posarà en marxà el proper mes de setembre... Merci pel teu correu!... Creu"
"I don't know where you have seen that... The Eurovision project will be starting again next September... Thanks for your email!... Creu"
Andorra was my favourite this year
Sorry, I meant you CAN'T satisfied everyone of course
It seems very difficult to find something that isn't unfair and at the same time it ensures the voting is fair for everyone. Maybe 50/50 jury-televoting would be the best, but I'm afraid that if the public and the jury disagreed completely on some songs (which I'm sure would happen), then an average song would win, and noone would be happy.
Mina
I don't think if there is equal countries from west, east... that there would be any different results. West is constantly vote for East, and don't give each other pts. On the other hand Eastern countries have promotion in West (witch most of Western countries don't do even in their neighbor countries) as well in East and every year Eastern countries have better stage act and ll effort pay back.
You can satisfied everyone... Every year there will be someone to tell that voting is unfair. I think one vote per phone would be better solution. But I think EBU would rather bring jury back than limit phone calls... There is a lot many in that...
This is how I see, they bring jury-televoting in JESC, and if it works they will bring it in ESC... In recent years i am sure this will happened..
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