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Prime Minister clears doubts up
Putin: "Eurovision will be held in Moscow"
Moscow has been definitely elected as the host city for the forthcoming Eurovision Song Contest. This is due to the higher development of Moscow's facilities, infrastructure and the possibility to minimize expenditures on the event. The Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, cleared up the doubts on which city would host 2009 Eurovision during a meeting of the Presidium of the Federal Government.
Deputy Prime Minister Alexandr Zhukov has been instructed by Putin to develop a plan for the 2009 Eurovision Song Contest. Zhukov also stated that the final of the 2009 event is scheduled to be held on May 16th and Olimpiiski Stadium is very likely to become the venue.
Russia won the right to host 2009 Eurovision Song Contest thanks to Dima Bilan's victory with the song Believe last May in Belgrade.
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what i really know?from now and on armenia,russia,ukraine,turkey, serbia,bosnia herzegovina an greece will be for sure for ever in top 5
Russia 2005 was not at all a good entry, this girl looked so lifeless on stage..the song was for me ok, but her performance and her aura pretty bad..i think the 15th place was pretty right.And for me this position of Russia is the best evidence that these theories of "eastern bloc" entries alwaus win or that everybody in the east votes for Russia no matter what the song is, are not very correct...It is time to admit it, a top10 entry needs much more votes than the diaspora, the political and the neighbouring vote..i am convinced of this
Apparently because of your keyboard the song's title can't be read. Anyway the english title was Not that simple.
That's right! 
"Ti dolzhna ryadom bit' " - is a russian version.
By the way Nobody hurt noone was also a very good song and I think Russia deserved more than the 15th place that year...I don't know why they didn't get more votes. Honestly I dont like this song and as long as I remember even in Russia it was not popular at all. Natalia had the chance to make a musical career but she only managed to marry V.Presnyakov, another not very talented singer whose peak of career ended 15 years ago.
lower instead of longer
In my opinion, Nobody Hurt No One was a terrible song...
I can't understand that it didn't end up much longer - oh, but yes, indeed, I CAN understand...
Candyman 12 points
"OMG he tried in 2005 as well? it seems he was so desperate to take part in Eurovision! (a big star competing in a NF?)
i think fan's favourite was another song from a female artist i can't remember at the moment... how the heck that horrible "american"type song won in the NF in 2005?"
Some interesting facts that you guys maybe dont know.
Yes, Bilan tried in NF-2005 with his song Ты должна рядом быть (its eng version). He was the favourite of NF . Bilan was young but famouse enough and much popular that time then Natalia Podol'skaya.
2. The resalts of Russian NF-2oo5 were garbled (as well as this year by 2 channel ). Podolskaya won ( with the profit 5% over Bilan) because the first Russian Channel was interested to send its "own" artist. (that time Podolskaya had just won Fabrika Zvezd, First Channel "product".)
greece and cyprus are neither east not westthey are south-east mediterenean countries. For me Turkey is also politically not at all east..but europe is europe, east or west...
so what if Russia wouldn't win if only western countries voted? Is there some law that says that the western countries' votes are worth more than the eastern countries' votes? And I don't see why you make it seem like a big achievement that Serebro got points from the Uk..so what?
2nd how exactly was Greece ignored by eastern countries? 12 pts by Albania, 10 pts by Bulgaria, 12 pts by Romania, 8 pts by Serbia, 8 pts by Armenia, 7 pts by Bosnia, 8 pts by Hungary, 6 pts by Azerbaijan, I would hardly call that 'being ignored'.
Unless you meant by ex soviet countries, well they always give us very low votes anyway, except when Sakis went to Eurovision.
You're saying that because the song was in English, they wouldn't understand it, so why vote for it?
Then, according to you, Molitva should have never won since not that many ppl speak Serbian? The music, the performance, the artist don't matter?
Darling, i just showed you that eastern votes made him win by ignoring the big favourites like Greece and Ukraine (Armenia by Baltic states)
U mentioned Serebro that failed to gain enough pts to win.. well it was some kind of victory for them to get pts from..the United Kingdom as UK didn't even vote for Russia when they sent tATu!! It's not an achievement to get pts from ex-soviet countries only, honey.
Not only Greece, but Armenia was ignored by Baltic states and Azerbaijan. Ukraine could have gotten more pts as they did the previous years.
About the language of the song; why they voted for it? Because it was RUSSIA! If Greece or Turkey had this song as their entry, they would have given it a big ZERO!
I thought it would be interesting to point out that Moscow has become the most expensive city in the world according to the BBC -
OH THANK YOU for the link. some persons here tried to prove the opposite! lol!
I was talking about high pts, OMG. And Finland isn't that far away from Russia, is it? It's like you're saying Bulgaria gave 10pts to Greece. Big deal. And Greece-Cyprus are far from Western countries. Count immigrants as well.
Jonny:
"Conversely, some locations such as Stockholm and New York now appear less costly by comparison."
I was afraid that they would say that Stockholm is one of the most expensive cities.
I thought it would be interesting to point out that Moscow has become the most expensive city in the world according to the BBC -
http://news.bbc.co.u(...)business/7522544.stm
Good luck to anybody going, just always have your wallets ready!
oh about 2005, Russia got 10pts less ONLY! than the points RUS received in 2004.
I don't know if you saw the stats esctoday published right after the 2008 final results... Russia wouldn't have won if Western countries voted only. And they were 1st by margin counting eastern votes only... guess why! lol
if bilan's song was in Russian, i would understand, but in English?? LOOL i doubt if they understood a single word of what he sang (native English speakers didn't understand a thing though)
The thing is that he did win and he did come 2nd. Serebro weren't even 2nd...why didn't those block votings help them win last year? Or you mean to say that the ONE ex soviet country that was added this year, Azerbaijan, with the 8 pts they gave to Russia, gave them the victory?LOL
And how can you say they were close? Serebro were 61 pts behind Serbia, and 27 pts behind Ukraine..I wouldn't call that close.
Was it just a coincidence that both times Dima went to eurovision he had such good results?
Serebro had to face Serbia (block voting) and Ukraine (which got votes from western countries as well). Diva Bilan's most pts were from eastern countries while Serebro got more pts from western countries than Dima Bilan did! They were even voted by the UKpublic!!
And wake up honey, i was talking about tATu that they were close to win, not Serebro.
And Dima Bilan was voted only by eastern countries, while Greece was ignored, Ukraine got less than previous years except the Georgian votes and Armenia was ignored by Azerbaijan and Baltic states.
Like him or not, in Dima's 2 participations in eurovision he was no 1 and no 2. Right before him in 2004 Russia was 15th. Right after him Russia was 3rd..and let's wait for the 2010 result.
The truth is that he's brought Russia great results both times. I don't know what more could they expect from him
In 2004, Russia was 11th not 15th. In 2003, they were close to the 1st place
So what if Russia came 3rd in 2007? Serebro deserved it and maybe even more..
The 2010 result won't be top 3 i think. I mean look at the hosts every year since 2005. they're doing bad from what they expected to do (greece in 2006, serbia in 2008 were even favourites to win!)
Oh and don't make me tell you..how he "brought" these results! In 2006, he was unlucky because Finland was stronger as Estonia gave them 12p instead of Russia (both neighbours) and the 2008 ESC was easier for them to win since neither Greece nor Ukraine had as many block votings as Russia had. So it would have been a piece of cake for any1 to win for Russia this year,.... my dear, haven't u heard for some things that....."they were meant to be"?
Still, he didn't prove how "big" he is as an artist and of course his song didn't have any impact on charts
and nobody is forgetting the fact that Greece and Turkey are in Eurovision for decades
and they were underrated for years but now things changed LOL
Okay, Mina, only for you again...
By talking about the Contest, many people are using the terms "East" and "West" to separate the obvious beneficiairies from the countries with disadvantages (this definition derives from the fact that the geographical definition fits mostly)...
And of course, you can now be fussy, that's your decision...
btw.: The defintion you gave is not implicitly right. Look at wikipedia - there are four different definitions. If you take f. ex. the geographical definition, of course, Greece and Turkey are in Eastern Europe... But that's not the point, that's why I wrote it below and not in my actual reaction. Why I said, it fits mostly, is for example because there are exceptions like Israel who surely doesn't benefits from the voting system, additionally I think Hungary, Poland and Slovenia have clearly less advantages than f. ex. Armenia, Greece, Russia or Ukraine...
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LOL, Turkey, Greece and Finland aren't eastern europe! And what we are forgetting most of these countries have actuallly been in eurovision for years, Turkey since the 70's, Finland since the 60's, Greece since the 70's, and Serbia since the 60's as part of Yugoslavia. So whilst we may have had a few eastern winners, they've been in the eurovision family for ages anyway, so deserved the win equally as much as a western country would
Absolutely, you can count Greece and Turkey to the countries who are among the beneficiairies of this voting system... In fact, they belong to the circle of countries which benefit the most... The term 'East' has established itself to signify these countries - therefore don't be nitpickers...
And it doesn't make a difference if they are already a long time in the Eurovision family or if they just have joined - that's no argument... (and nobody is forgetting the fact that Greece and Turkey are in Eurovision for decades - that's absolutely not the point...)
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Well, they did with Tatu and it didn't work. They did it with Serebro and it didn't work. They used a NF this year and it did work. If that means they didn't trust Dima enough I don't know but he proved them wrong anyway
LOL. It didn't work with Serebro? No1 expected them to reach top 3 and they did it! So it was a success. They held NF in 2005 as well and it didn't work as well.
And about Bilan, he wasnt the big star or talent to be proposed to represent the nation i think. And no he didn't prove anything.. 
I still don't see your point. Just because Dima had to go through a NF, means he's not a star?
It's not only that but of course it's a sign...The Russian broadcaster could propose him like they did with tATu.
He wasn't a big star in 2005. And what do you mean a star competing in NF? Charlotte is a star in Sweden and yet she competed in NF.
And i was right.
In Melodifestival every1 participates..stars or newcomers.. don;t u know it?
It was their fault, they should have sent Dima that year
(he had come 2nd in the NF).
My favourite Russian entry (after Believing) was 2004, I loved that song but her performance was very bad.
OMG he tried in 2005 as well? it seems he was so desperate to take part in Eurovision! (a big star competing in a NF?)
i think fan's favourite was another song from a female artist i can't remember at the moment... how the heck that horrible "american"type song won in the NF in 2005?
I liked a lot 2004 entry! Julia was so sweet but yeah the perfomance was so messy..and she got angry with the dancers when the perfomance ended,didn't she?
Owen & Max, glad to see you dislike the 2008 Russian entry!
Russia should have won in 2000 and i wouldn't bother if they had won in 2007 or even 2006 (even if Bosnia&Herzegovina and Romania were my favourite entries to win but i disliked Finland)
My favourite russian entry is between Alsou, t.A.T.u and Serebro! all AWSOME songs! Shame Russia won with one of the worst songs they have sent!
My favourite Russian song was Mumiy Troll... They were authentic and had style...
Dima was just cheap in my opinion...
I liked tATu, i loved Serebro and Alsou(her perfomance was poor in 2000)..their 2005 entry was horrible deserved to end last but of course it didn't...
And Dima Bilan is totally untalented for me. my least favourite Russian artist...its a pity he brought the victory to Russia after so many good entries..
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