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Eesti Laul call for songs
Estonia decides on March 6th 2010
A total of ten entries selected by an internal jury will take part in the open competition to be aired on ERR's tv division, ETV, under the name Eesti Laul 2010, a selection process that has been shortened and simplified owing to financial difficulties finally relieved thanks to a donation by the foundation Estonia Enterprise.
The national broadcaster has called for songs, that can be submitted until January 7th. The winner, to be decided by a mixture of jury vote and public vote, will be announced on March 6th, the day of the 2010 national final in Estonia.
ERR officials are happy with their preparations of the 2010 Eurovision season. As an example, Mr. Mart Normet, entertainment manager, said that the selection of the songs will remain the same as last year: "The way we chose the songs last year fully justified the result, so we will not reinvent the wheel this time", explained Normet.
Estonia was represented in Moscow 2009 by Urban Symphony and the song Rändajad, landing on 6th place in the final.
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Hopefully they will sing in Estonian again - 6th place is a darned sight better than they did with the tosh in English!
What a STUPID disscution!
If a country weren´t allowed to hire a performer from another country there wouldn´t be any ESC left.. Thru the history it has litterally rained with examples of artists coming from a different country than they represent.
Starting in the 1960s with Nana Mouskouri representing Luxembourg in 1963..
And there wouldn´t have been any Celine Dion, Baccara,
Vicky leandros, Gina G, Secret Garden, Antique, Katrina & the Waves, to name but a few. All of them names who made a big inpact on the contest.
Anyway.
WELCOME TO NORWAY,
ESTONIA!!!!
Good Luck Estonia for 2010
In my personal opinion this situation resembles a catch 22 because alot of countries which sing in their native language (non-english) tend not to get get high points. Very rarely do non-english songs appeal to the greater good of Europe that is fact! and then you have the problem of people moaning about non-english speaking countries not having the ability to pull off a fantastic song in the English.
So what exactly should countries do??? they go left they get criticized they go right they still get criticized, they stay neutral (the centre) e.g. an english song with ethnic elements they still get criticized??
Face it people some of you just like moaning about anything and everything
New in Town really has a point. It is absolutely NO fun to watch 40 bad pop songs in bad English every year. I don't think it always have to be etno songs and folk, but most of those folky songs have had much more charm in ESC for me. Like this year Portugal, Norway and Moldova were GREAT! It is possible to mix genres and have some traditional/folky influences.
And for Thorazin, sharing and showing culture is not a bad thing and it's not against uniting people. Opening borders, what for? Isn't that what caused ESC's voting death? Diaspora anyone? lol.
Off-topic:
@New in Town
I partly agree with you. I think the contest loses A LOT of its soul and the whole idea of ESC when it becomes more and more like a regular POP contest all in English. I don't think there should be ANY boundaries in ESC about genres, all genres should be welcome, even instrumental. It is a song/music contest and music is more than just pop.
I am not normally a nationalist or anything, but I would like the artists to actually BE from the country they represent or at least have citizenship. To me it appears nothing but GREED, mediawhoring and a cheap trick to buy songs (Dima Bilan) or send for a more famous/more known singer from other countries so they have a "better chance" at winning. It just doesn't sound right to me for an Estonian band to represent Switzerland for example...
On-topic:
So glad to know that Estonia will return! I hope they find another great song and preferably sung in their beautiful language again!
They should have gotten at least 3rd place this year.
@ Alexander S
Let me just add that the ridiculous fanatic diaspora voters always vote for COUNTRIES and NEVER songs. You have to understand that. That's the whole problem with diaspora voting. It doesn't matter what genre or where the artist is from, they vote for the country.
@ Alexander S.
I never said that Serbia couldn't send a rock song? Personally I prefer songs that reflect the countries, but I never said that they couldn't be in other genres.
My point was that the act or song atleast should be connected to the country it represents somehow. It could be the genre, the artist or both.
Eurovision should be about promoting your local music scene, whether it is ethno, rock, pop or whatever. What I am against, is the "rent a foreign artist and songwriter" concept. Which basically means that a country send a song and an artist that doesn't have anything to do with that particular country.
So if you thought I meant genres, then you misunderstood me. A song and/or act that is connected to the certain country can be in whatever genre.
You talk about diversity? There will be absolute NO diversity if every country will just use the "rent a foreign artist and songwriter" to gain extra points in the contest. How do you mean that's diversity?
A country should be represented by something connected locally. It could be the act or the genre. Like I said, doesn't have to be the genre. All countries have acts singing different type of genres, but they are still LOCAL. Get my point?
@ New in Town
I strongly disagree with your concept.
Practically you're saying that, for example Serbia should not send rock songs because they don't have rock music tradition in their culture. This is totally unacceptable.
Also, you simply cannot compare different cultures. You can't put Icelandic culture next to Turkish culture and judge which is better and which is worse. They're totally different. Also, following your concept, people will always vote for the same country from the same region, no matter what the song is, just because they like the certain culture/music genre. Naturally this would result into more neighbour voting.
Only in music diversity and freedom can you compare songs. There should be no limits put.
Mark & New in town
"Divserity is much more better than just the same old stuff. Also how can the show unite people, if there is just mainly a group of artists from a particular country entering and not every nationality taking part there?"
Well yeah that is a good point. We already do see alot of Swedish penned songs in the competition each year and arguably thats not diversity. But whilst we get this huge influx of songwriters from the same country, we also get small pockets of songwriters from other countries, like the Bosnian songwriter of Portugal 2008, or the Greek songwriter of Ukraine 2008, and I definitely don't think thats a bad thing either, because that is encouraging diversity and generally opening the contest up to more songwriters.
"So you mean that some random American girl should sing some random Americanized song in English for let's say for instance Slovakia? or Albania? or whatever country? That's just no logic and sense in that."
In this area I think, at the end of the day, if Albania (just for an example
) wants to be represented by an American then why can't they? If Albania chose that song then that song represents their taste, and what they like, and thus is representing Albania in Eurovision, regardless of who sings it. I know Albania is a bad example because if I remember rightly, the Albanian NF doesn't have televoting BUT in countries where they do have televoting to decide the song e.g Portugal 2008, or Andorra 2009, then if the public have chosen that song then they obviously like it and want it to represent them
@New in Town
OK, maybe she is married with an Andorran man, but the song, which she represented Andorra, 'La Teva Decisio', did she shared a special culture with that song? It would be the same imo, for Denmark or Andorra, the music didn't show the culture of the two countries!
@ Kenan Ö
Susanne lives in Andorra and is married to an Andorran, so that's a bad example.
I think the song or the act has to have some connection to the country it represent, preferely both. The more the better. That's the whole soul and point with Eurovision in the first place. Take that away and we'll just have another American Idol copy talent show.
@ Thorazin Corazon
So that's why we should just turn the whole contest into a bland American Idol copy? I don't see the logic at all.
I mean the more genuine the better. I know there's a commercial aspect of it aswell, but I don't see any good arguments why we should totally transform Eurovision to just another talent show.
The whole point is that you represent a country and I don't know about the current rules, but atleast in the past there was a rule that the entries should reflect the countries aswell.
I'm not saying that sending an Americanized Pop song has to be bad, but it's not something that I would like to see more of atleast.
And to just turn it into a random talent show where people and songs that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the countries they represent, it's just nonsense. Then what's the point with countries competing in the first place?
Is the deal to share local music or to attract as many diaspora voters as possible? Or what is your point?
Just because it's local, doesn't have to mean that it has to be ethno music, allthough that is preferable. But atleast it should be an act that has something to do with the country it represents. That's minimum. And obviously it's a plus if it's sung in the native language aswell and also if the sound reflects local music.
Eurovision will lose all it's concept and soul if it will be just another American Idol talent show.
So you mean that some random American girl should sing some random Americanized song in English for let's say for instance Slovakia? or Albania? or whatever country? That's just no logic and sense in that.
Correction: *cultur=culture
Jonny
But it's also about giving singers in countries which may have no chance of getting an international break a chance, such countries like Estonia. I'm certainly not one to be patrotic, but I want countries to send their own artists, just like it would be better if countries sent songs in their own language. Divserity is much more better than just the same old stuff. Also how can the show unite people, if there is just mainly a group of artists from a particular country entering and not every nationality taking part there? If everyone did it openly like you, we would basically have 1/2 of the contest Swedish songs ever year.
@sanka & New in Town
I disagree with u both! What if a non-Estonian singer would participate for Estonia with a song with Estonian cultur, music, ...?
When the Danish singer Susanne Georgi represented Andorra in ESC 2009, where there any problems or something else about it? As i said before, this method is just stupid!
New in town
sharing their particular culture with music to the rest of Europe.
Why should the aim of Eurovision be to turn into a bland American Idol rip-off contest? With no soul or anything left?
Come on, let's be honest, Eurovision never has and probably never will accurately represent the culture of any nation. The majority of entries are Americanised pop songs, pop/rock or pop songs. The only entry which springs to mind from this year which was representative of their culture, was Portugal. I may be forgetting a couple more but come on, on the whole Eurovision is about as representative of culture as the next talent show!
If a person who represents your country has nothing to do with it , then there is no point of naming countries either . If estonia would be represented by a Latvian with song written by Latvian , than where is the connection to Estonia ?
@ Kenan Ö & Thorazin Corazon
I disagree with both of you 110%! I hope Eurovision will never turn into what you two suggest, allthough it's already been like that too many times.
The whole charm with Eurovision is Europe coming together and unite for a couple of evenings, sharing their particular culture with music to the rest of Europe.
Why should countries send entries that has nothing to do with the country? Why should the aim of Eurovision be to turn into a bland American Idol rip-off contest? With no soul or anything left?
Entries represents countries, that's the whole idea. Why representing a commercial POP idea?
"How stupid! I think everyone should can participate for Estonia, not just Estonian's! But that's not just for Estonia, for other countries also, which are using that stupid method!"
I totally agree Kenan
I think anybody should be allowed to represent any country, especially as this allows non-Europeans to take part in the contest. Alot of Eurovision winners (especially from countries like Luxembourg, and even the UK) weren't from the country they represented.
Also, if Eurovision is all about opening borders and and uniting people, then not allowing foreign people to take part (for your country) is hypocrytical. I think thats when it starts to go down the lines of partiotism which is when it all gets too serious and people start to forget it is just a song contest after all
that rule was made because 1) it is called Estonian song and should introduce Estonian bands and music groups
2) it is still prefered that your country is represented by local musician
@sanka
How stupid!
I think everyone should can participate for Estonia, not just Estonian's! But that's not just for Estonia, for other countries also, which are using that stupid method!
*arben bacaj
Don't worry, the national finale in Denmark is the 6th of February and not the 6th og March :-)
@ Sanka
thanks, I couldn't understand a word of the rules in Estonian
@ Will T -According to the rules of the Estonian national selection EESTI LAUL 2010, only the Estonian citizens and the foreigners permanently residing in Estonia are welcome to participate this year.
@ Antonio- if she would have performed like this , she would have had bigger chances http://www.youtube.c(...)/watch?v=6_yfbRevKTo
I will definitely go to Estonia if they will win Eurovision next year! Estonia is one of my favourite countries in Eurovision, such a pity they didn't pass the first five years
PLEASE SEND A SONG LIKE , INES 2000 . ONCE IN A LIFETIME ,
THAT SHOULD HAVE WON THAT YEAR , NOT DENMARK
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