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20/Apr 2007 at 13:46

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Karolina, FYR Macedonia 2007

Appeal decision due Monday

Exclusive: FYR Macedonia english application rejected

FYR Macedonian delegation decided on Wednesday to apply to the EBU for permission to allow Karolina sing the second half of her song, Mojot svet, in English. They have confirmed to esctoday.com that they decided to allow Karolina to perform the bilingual verison of the song, but their application has been rejected by the EBU. They have now appealed against the decision and hope for a positive outcome by Monday of next week.

Karolina is desperate to sing part of the song in English but initially, the FYR Macedonia rules stated the performance had to be in their native language. After taking Karolina's views into consideration, taking soundings from the record company, other music experts and the fans, including the reaction to the song following the release of the English version, the delegation met and decided to formally apply to sing the second half of the song in English.

The EBU rejected the request with the view that at this late stage it would not be possible to change the language. Earlier this week, esctoday.com contacted the EBU to ask if a language change to part of the song would be allowed. Svante Stockselius told told us that "the participating songs can not be changed at all after they have been delivered at the HoD-meeting two months prior to the event. In some cases, after a formal request, we might allow some minor adjustments."

The FYR Macedonian delegation have appealed against this decision and are now awaiting a final decision. It remains to be seen whether the delegation can convince the EBU to allow 'some minor adjustments', and a decision is expected by monday.

esctoday.com will of course continue to cover this story closely.

Karolina will represent FYR Macedonia in the Eurovision Song Contest semi-final in Helsinki on May 10th after Elena Risteska took the country to 12th place in Athens.


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Boyan Nanev [23688]
Tue 24 Apr 2007 14:31:28

stvarno Luka i mene mi izgledase umoreno sedev sinokja vo 2 sabajle reprizata da ja gledam oti vo nedelata ne gladav :)
ali veruvam vo Karolina i kje se spremi Tip Top sto vika Tel karo :)
moze da izleze interesno so toa stolceto so vrtenjet o :L
i stvarno kaj e odlukava na EBU eve vtornik e :S


Steven Spiteri [36732]
Tue 24 Apr 2007 11:48:22

What was the final outcome of EBU decision on your language performance?

I prefer dual language...goodluck from MALTA...FYR MACEDONIA deserve 2nd place after MALTA guys...your song is GREAT...you've got my support


antonij l [18536]
Tue 24 Apr 2007 06:52:36

and australia brings you love. you're hot :P


Anna Gianno [39886]
Tue 24 Apr 2007 05:47:29

What i do not understand is that Nikolas kept on responding saying "This forum is not for politics, blah blah blah"
if it isnt for politics STOP WRITING.......GO AWAY! thats all your comments are about.
Fair enough he doesnt have to like the song, and he is entitled to his opinion, but say it once and thats enough. We dont need to keep hearing this mediocre sh** he keeps telling us, and we get the point U LIKE VODA, we dont care go write about that in the Bulgarian forum.
BTW: Fair enough u still want to call the country FYROM, but the people there are macedonian whether u like it of not (notice the M in FYROM stands for macedonia) wtf is fyromian??

Anywayz back to the topic.....
Goodluck Karolina babe, dw about the language, just sing from ur heart and wow all of europe.

i bring u love from Monaco ;)


Tal Karo [38014]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 21:07:37

of lele tesko na Karolina,nema da ima vreme da se odmori do 10 Maj haha.
Abe daj ne zaebajte sea i vie.Tip-Top podgotvena ke bide ona za taa vecer ic da ne i se sekirate.
Samo so se sluci so jazik prasanjeto?


Boyan Nanev [23688]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 14:53:35

of lele lugje sto se zamarate so vakvi gluposti i glupaci???!!!??
samo IGNORE ;)


Sashko Zotevski [33824]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 14:08:43

Father, glorify your Name! Then a voise came from heaven: "I have glorified it ,and I will glorified it again John 12,28 ADONAI M+ADONAI *MADONAI Ma/Dona i MA(KE)DONAI

Fact is that the Bible is writen for God as for He But if we suposed that the name ,again names are focus in my searches Father is fully originated in the name Mother Father *F->*M Mother Ma/ther Matera *Ma/TERA ---------------- *N->*L->*R ----------------- *Ma/TeNa *Ma/DoNa Ma-Mother Ma(Ke)/Dona Majka -Mother Than on this way we may have much better explanation of those Our's Lord word as name Jesus originated in Don as I wrote above.

Macedonia is the holy country




Tal Karo [38014]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 13:44:31

ma gi dobivaat bez komentar




antonij l [18536]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 05:53:52

they've already released an album with all of the songs on it. My guess is that the language won't change on an official level.

she should sing it however she likes on the final.


Tal Karo [38014]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 03:59:33

Anyhow,back to the song,i am just wondering how come it hasn't been exposed to any changes yet.Wouldn't they?


Tal Karo [38014]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 03:57:00

@JZ
i dont think you got my point about the "passport" thing.
Wasn't offensively at all


Novak Stevanovic [40219]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 03:38:10

...i REALLY LOVE GREEKS(uh,sorry)..I MEAN GEEKS....GREEK OR GEEK..IT IS ALL THE SAME...JUST REMEMBER THEIR SONG FEW YEARS AGO..TWO VILLIAGE GREEKS.(uh,sorry) GEEKS...WITH SONG CALLED
"SAGAPO"...DRESSED IN CLOTHES TAKEN FROM MY GRANDMA CLOSET,AND BOOTS BORRED FROM THE 60`...HOW HILARIOUS WAS THAT...my friends who are greeks (and not geeks) said to me than:
THIS WAS THE BIGGEST SHAME ON EUROVISION FROM BEGINNING


macedonian spirit [39824]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 02:19:15

@ Darko
Nema potreba od ubeduvanja so 2-3 ludaci za istoriski prasanja. Imaj vo predvid deka za da gi ubedis niv da te vikaat Makedonija e isto tolku tesko i nevozmozno kako sto bi bilo nevozmozno tie da ne ubedat nas da si se vikame bjrm. Zatoa, ne se nerviraj i ne se karaj na vakov nacin! :) Podobro ismejuvaj gi sto se glupi i doagaat na nasi forumi, gi ubeduvaat evropjanite koi sme i sto sme i si tupat glava okolu toa kako si se vikame ili kako nekoj tret ne narekuva. Toa e nivna super antireklama, evropjanite toa dobro go gledaat i odi samo vo nas prilog!
Pozdrav :)


macedonian spirit [39824]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 02:09:34

''It is sure that FYROM won't pass in the final with this mediocre and boooring song and Karolina is passionless and a bed performer. English or fyromian, this song isn't good at all. So see you in the semis next year because this year the balkan countries will vote for Serbia and Bulgaria. Good luck though, Karolina will surely need it''

DO YOU RECOGNIZE SOMEONE BEHIND THESE WORDS? :)
I've read it paraphrased like 100 times. And who really cares what he thinks? :)

Mate, you need a shrink. And believe me what I say, I am a doctor. I don't hate you, I just pity you.


Forza Macedonia! :)


Darko Cvetanovski [40217]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 02:01:55

grece people ARE IN BLOOD CONNECTION WITH TURKY PEOPLE,SO THEY ARE LIKE BROTHERS WITH HIM!!!!!!!AND THAT IS WAY grece's ARE WITH DARK SKIN LIKE GIPSYS...SO I DON'T THINK THAT they ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE ANTIC MACEDONIANS.ON THE OTHER HAND WE MACEDONIANS ARE WITH WHITE SKIN LIKE THE AUTHENTIC ANTIC MACEDONIANS!!!!


Darko Cvetanovski [40217]
Mon 23 Apr 2007 01:45:46

NIKOLAS VERTIGO E NAJGOLEMIOT GRCKI PEDER U CEL SVET.
DA MU EBAM SESTRICATA U PICKA!!!!!!!!!!!
IZVINITE ZA MOJA VULGARNOST!
CUNAMI ZA GRCIJA!!!!!!!
SOLUN IT BELOHG TO US!!!!!!


macedonian spirit [39824]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 23:54:51

So, G(r)eeks, if you're so into the music, why don't you post comments on the other songs, but stick to the macedonian forums?
Now we have the feeling that the macedonian entry is the only one in the ESC worth of commenting on! :)

@ Tal Karo - good point about the passport thing!
Hehe bidete mudri i namesto da se raspravate pravete gi budali so zafrkancii :)
Greetings to Canada and Australia! :)


J Z [33178]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 22:02:02

@Tal Karo
Maybe you forgot what you wrote earlier!!! You are offensive to all greeks thats why the reaction!! Talking about passports and all that .....!!! So if you talk like this you should expect bad reactions!! Just think about it...!!!!


Tal Karo [38014]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 20:23:00

@JZ
Noone here said the Greeks had a problem with the Macedonian song except that Nicolas 100's times over and over again repeated the song is bs bla bla looking for moments to include that FYROM in his every single post.

And speaking of bad behaviors maybe you should address to your fellas(the Greeks) and try to solve it with them.
They are the ones coming onto this subforum to discuss about a "song" they dont like.

@Millanov
Begging a Greek moderator to ban his Greek fellas hehe.Won't be even surprised if he comes on here under one of these Greek names :)
Listen,just dont pay attention to this.Its not like you ve seen or you will see this fyrm for the first time.
To every fyrm you respond with Macedonia,no harm no pain.
So lets talk about music,f*** this fyromanian fyrm sh**.
Not me not you not Nikolas or the moderator or anyone else here can solve this issue,especially not on forums .
So any updates about Karolina?


J Z [33178]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 19:39:15

My friend Tal Karo the Greeks dont have problem with your songs but with your behaviour!! Its offensive!!! Like yours!!


Tal Karo [38014]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 17:13:01

cuz 2/3 of the responses would be from the Greeks geeks :))
Thatsway


Barbara Mercurio [28114]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 16:24:04

Why every article about Macedonian entry has so many responses ?


noram belli [31129]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 15:36:39

why such fuss on this song?


antonij l [18536]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 14:33:20

ok.. so is there a verdict on the pattern in which Karolina will be singing in each language?


Nikolas Vertigo [39650]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 14:05:44

@ Tal Karo:
well i will let you alone with your question wondering..i do not like this patriotic trip of yours, i am out of it....good luck to Karolina, i think she is going to need it!


Tal Karo [38014]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 13:57:50

@Nikolas

Apparently you don't get it.
I was not talking about Karolina's song i was talking about the Macedonian songs in the ESC business in general.
Remember when Karolina took part in ESC for the first time Elena Paparizou was interviewed in Greece by a foreign TV and among the songs she liked from that year's ESC she also mentioned "Depends on us".This is just an example.There lot of people in Greece that liked our songs but they never voted.
And one more questions just out of curiosity.
The people in the Greek Macedonia,what kind of passport they have,what is their nationality?
Does it say Macedonian on the passport,just wondering?


Nikolas Vertigo [39650]
Sun 22 Apr 2007 13:56:55

@Burak Attila:
the official name of the country in the EU and the United nations is FYROM..anyway FYR Macedonia is almost the same, but for me and many others(not only greeks) the name Macedonia has another political, cultural and historical meaning than an ex or a now slav republic..capito? and stop commenting on everything i say, i will start taking this personally :-) and let us talk about entries in the contest: it is your right to like this song and it is my right to find it not good and believe that it wont even qualify....so let us draw a line here i am tired of all this talk about the fyromian entry!


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